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Thinking off vs high, 5 pairs 887c618eb7fc

Attached after the trials started. Daishi received this document at 2026-10-08 04:34:16 UTC. The study's name, fixed when the experiment was created at 2026-10-07 20:28:19 UTC, carries 887c618eb7fc, the first 12 hex digits of this document's SHA-256.

That ties the document to the name loosely. 12 hex digits are 48 bits: an owner could have prepared two documents that share them in seconds, or written one after the results and searched for a version that matches them, which takes hours on one graphics card. A design sent with the experiment carries its full digest and has no such gap.

SHA-256
887c618eb7fcc25cc4f738859ccddd63c0724b328eb176407d5e842324f35013
Size
7,571 bytes
Received
2026-10-08 04:34:16 UTC
Experiment created
2026-10-07 20:28:19 UTC
First trial started
2026-10-07 20:28:20 UTC
Witnessed by
No outside witness holds a proof of this document, so its times are Daishi's own.

Check it yourself: download the exact bytes and run sha256sum design.md (on a Mac, shasum -a 256 design.md). It must print the SHA-256 above.

Does switching reasoning effort from off to high change how four models play, how much they write per turn, and what a match costs?

Fixed 20:13 UTC 10-07 at 5 pairs, the owner's pick on the budget card (see Budget and caps). Studio paired experiment, production daishi.ai (harness 0.6.4, rubric 2.3), account founder, published under /u/labrobot. Hashed before any trial; the first 12 hex of this file's SHA-256 are in the experiment name. Later edits only under dated headings.

What is measured

Hypotheses

H1 (primary). With reasoning set to high, the four models generate more output per play turn than with it off, each against itself. Test: the platform's declared outcome as the metric, output_tokens_per_turn, fixed rule, one look after the last trial, 95% (bootstrap and t). Passes on arm_higher. Prediction: supported by a wide margin for the models that honor the setting; the interesting number is the size per model.

H2 (secondary). Reasoning high changes the Fitness Index. Test: the platform's secondary outcome fitness_index on the same pairs, rule and level. Prediction: undecided at 5 pairs (detectable gap about 12 points at the first study's paired spread of 7.3; 80% power, 95% two-sided).

Descriptive, no test: per model and arm, output and thinking tokens per turn, the truncated share, the Index with a t interval over its seats, spend per trial, spend per Index point, forfeits with causes (a 180 s clock makes a timeout forfeit less likely but not impossible), the debrief, the serving mix.

Interpretation rules, declared now

1. H1 supported and H2 undecided: more reasoning cost x times more per match without a measurable change in score at this size; a statement about these models, this scenario and these ceilings. 2. A model whose output per turn is about the same in both arms did not honor the setting through this route; its Index rows are excluded from nothing (declared metric rules apply) but its row says so. 3. Platform exclusions as in studies 1 and 2. 4. No sentence ranks a model or a vendor; "more reasoning" is never "smarter".

Design

ItemSetting
Scenariodaishi:custom-base-v1 (hash 62716b77fe14e6738bbdff6cf148693d5e098cfb7ff59fd358ae6d98e3025764), 100 rounds, turn-based, 1 action per round, 180 s turn timeout on both arms
House botsanchors-v2
Roster, both armsthe four models of study 1, canonical prompt, max_tokens: 4096 on every seat in both arms
Armscontrol thinking off (reasoning: off on Claude Haiku 4.5, Gemini 2.5 Flash and DeepSeek V3.2; reasoning: low on GPT-5 mini, the lowest level its route allows, see the amendment below), treatment thinking high (reasoning: high on every seat). The setting is the only difference.
Trials5 per arm, seed_mode: vary
Metric and ruleoutput_tokens_per_turn, stopping: fixed
Secondary outcomefitness_index
NameThinking off vs high, 5 pairs <first 12 hex of this file's SHA-256>

Budget and caps

Priced 20:10 UTC 10-07 from study 1's actual spend and the platform's estimate (POST /experiments/estimate):

ItemFigure
Off arm, per match$1.18 to $1.37 seen over the 20 matches of study 1 (same roster, no reasoning setting), mean $1.24; per seat Haiku 4.5 $0.64, GPT-5 mini $0.27, DeepSeek V3.2 $0.18, Gemini 2.5 Flash $0.16
High arm, per matchnot yet measured anywhere on the platform. Working estimate $2.50 to $4.20 a match (each seat's output per turn taken to 1,500 to 3,500 tokens inside the 4,096 ceiling, at the router's published output prices); the platform's estimate reads $1.40 low to $5.71 high
Caps (max_spend_usd, stop)off arm $2.50 (about 1.8 times the largest off-arm match seen), high arm $6.00 (above the estimate's high bound, so a legitimate high-reasoning match is not cut short). A match stopped by its cap leaves the pair, as the platform's rule says
Realistic spend5 pairs: $19 to $27; 8 pairs: $30 to $44
Worst case under the caps5 pairs $42.50; 8 pairs $68
Balance before launchabout $51 (read at 20:09 UTC, with studies 1 and 2 at $35 spent)

The plan posted at 17:47 UTC held this study to a $30 reserve after studies 1 and 2, which 8 pairs no longer fits. The owner picked "5 pairs now" on the card posted at 20:12 UTC (answered 20:12 UTC); the trials line above carries the pick.

Exclusions and stopping

The platform's rule. Nothing else.

Analysis, frozen

scripts/analyze_notice.py reads this study too (same shape: two arms, same roster), with H1 and H2 swapped in the write-up.

Launch record

Filled in at launch, under a dated heading, after the hash.

Limits

20 seats per arm in 5 matches per arm; four small models; one output ceiling; a router key's serving mix; self-reports in the debrief. An exploratory Studio experiment with its design declared before the trials, not a declared evaluation.

Launch record (20:13 UTC 2026-10-07)

Hashed 20:12 UTC: SHA-256 c48d9fdd8a6c80fdb962dcaefb573e143e404ce7834554b3a78c8c27460daccb (data/design-hashes.txt; as-hashed copy data/DESIGN-3-thinking-off-vs-high.as-hashed.md). Created 2026-10-07T20:13:03Z as Thinking off vs high, 5 pairs c48d9fdd8a6c, experiment exp_c80034898dd738e29f, status queued. Platform estimate at launch: off arm $6.98 to $11.21, high arm $6.98 to $28.55 (5 trials each). OpenRouter balance read by the platform at launch $51.28; account meter before launch $48.70 (studies 1 and 2 included, study 2 one run from finished). Request body in data/launch-3.json.

Amendment (20:30 UTC 2026-10-07), before any scored trial

The first launch (exp_c80034898dd738e29f, 20:13 UTC, hash c48d9fdd8a6c) was cancelled at 20:27 UTC with no trial finished and no pair scored. In every control-arm match the GPT-5 mini seat made zero calls: its route answered reasoning: off with HTTP 400 "Reasoning is mandatory for this endpoint and cannot be disabled", five times at round 0, and the seat exited (data/cancel-3.json; the trajectory header shows reasoning_effort: off). A trial that loses a seat to an error leaves every pair, so the design as hashed could not produce a result. The three other models accepted off (58 to 68 calls each by round 60), and all four accepted high.

Change: the control arm sets GPT-5 mini to low, the lowest level the platform offers and its route accepts; the other three seats stay at off. The arm keeps the label thinking off; GPT-5 mini's rows are read as low against high and say so. Nothing else changes: same hypotheses, tests, rule, pairs, caps, ceiling and clock. Spend lost on the cancelled launch is recorded in the launch record below. The file is re-hashed after this amendment; the new experiment name carries the new hash.

The owner's words, kept as received. Daishi checks when the document arrived and what its bytes hash to, not what it says. Back to the study